The Problems With Jinn Catching
Some people asked me about my view regarding jinn catching and what I thought about it. I don’t think my opinion is very important as other raqis have spoken about it. But since I have been asked by patients and I will probably be asked about it again in the near future, I must publically say what I believe and actually write and publish something on it because if I were to remain silent and not answer those patients who asked me or if I didn’t publish an article then it would be as if I found nothing wrong with it and that may be interpreted as a tacit approval.
I AM NOT FORCING ANYONE TO FOLLOW MY OPINION ON JINN CATCHING BUT PATIENTS MUST CAREFULLY LOOK AT THE REALITY OF WHAT JINN CATCHING IS BEFORE EMBARKING ON THIS METHOD OF TREATMENT. ASK ALLAH TO GUIDE YOU AND COMPARE THE EVIDENCE OF THOSE WHO SAY IT IS ALLOWED WITH THE EVIDENCE OF THOSE OF US WHO DISAGREE WITH JINN CATCHING.
I myself was a patient of jinn possession and sihr and therefore I can understand the feeling of desperation that can result from searching for a cure. However, this feeling must not let us overlook the reality of certain methods to cure jinn possession. We as patients must always stay focused and make sure with the guidance of Allah that any treatment we undertake is accepted in Islam.
I believe the majority of those people who practice jinn catching are just trying to help their muslim brothers and sisters and want the best possible treatment for them. However, sincerity does not always lead you to the correct Islamic method of dealing with illnesses. How many people get involved in ruqya sincerely but then end up falling into fitna with money and women or they do strange practices that make the patient’s situation worse than what it was!
I call on those raqis who do jinn catching to ponder on the following reasons why I myself do not practice jinn catching and I pray to Allah that he opens their hearts and that he makes them understand what I am saying.
Before we look at the reasons, we need to first define what ‘seeking help from the jinn’ or ‘help of the jinn’is, because I will be using this phrase or term throughout the discussion below.
“SEEKING HELP FROM THE JINN” OR “HELP OF THE JINN”: It is, but not limited to: Behaving and acting like a fortune teller or those who work with the jinn by asking the jinn questions about the unseen world or getting them to do things or benefiting from them or their services, such as diagnosing the patient ie the type of spiritual or physical illnesses, asking the jinn to diagnose the condition of present or absent patients or people, asking the jinn to diagnose the condition of the patient’s family, asking the jinn about the taweez and where it is and what it is for, asking the jinn to destroy sihr in the body or external sihr, asking the jinn about the sahir and who he is, asking the jinn to diagnose if there is any sihr on a group of people and why the sihr was done on them, asking the jinn to fight other jinns or humans, asking the jinn to protect people, asking the jinn to treat patients such as removing sihr from the stomach, asking the jinn about unsolved crimes or stolen items, using the help of the jinn’s vision of the unseen world by asking the jinn to watch and see if the sihr, jinn or other things like blood sacrifices or other sacrifices or sihr contracts or networks or pacts get destroyed by ruqya and then afterwards asking the jinn to see and look if these things have really been destroyed (so in order to know if a patient’s sihr is cured or not, the jinn’s help, via its vision, is required for diagnosis), using and benefiting from the jinn’s vision or hearing, telling a completely manifested and speaking jinnee in a patient to remove sihr or ayn or any other illness from another patient, …….etc.
A good example of what I mean by seeking the help of the jinn can be found in the fatwa below (via the link) by Sheikh Fawzan:
*Question:*
“Virtuous Shaikh, may Allâh grant you success; if the Jinn speaks at the end of the ruqyah, should I ask him about the magic and who did it?”
*Al-‘Allâmah Sâlih al-Fawzân:*
“No, do not ask him about the unseen and the magic. Tell him, “Fear Allâh, get out of this person; fear Allâh and do not transgress against the Muslims”. Advise him, (but) as for asking him to inform you about things, this is not permissible – this is seeking aid and assistance from the Jinn. Yes.”
For more examples on what “seeking the help of the jinn” is and how the evidence from the Quran and hadith regarding this issue have been explained by scholars, then please refer to the fatawa below from “islamqa” and other fatawa elsewhere on the internet about the work of fortune tellers and the people who work with jinn.
Basically, the scholars consider those people who use the jinn’s help to be like fortune tellers because fortune tellers use the jinn’s help so therefore the hadith that talk about the kufr and the prohibition of visiting fortune tellers will also apply to anyone who behaves like a fortune teller ie those hadiths will also apply to jinn catching raqis because they have similarities to fortune tellers such as asking the jinn certain questions about the unseen and also asking the jinn for help and assistance in matters that are to do with the unseen world of jinn (please see the above definition of seeking help of the jinn).
Having this broad understanding of ‘seeking help from the jinn’ or ‘help of the jinn’, will help you appreciate what I say below.
1. Jinn catching ruqya is not permissible because it is seeking help, assistance and cure through jinn, which is shirk. That’s because the jinn catching raqi wants and desires the help of jinn in his heart and then he makes the intention to use the help of the jinn before the actual reading of the ruqya so therefore his whole reading of ruqya is false since actions are ONLY based on intentions. This intention alone renders the ruqya invalid as it is reading ruqya with the intention to commit shirk! ie wanting, desiring and yearning for the help of the jinn in the heart and then using ruqya as a way or means of getting the help from the jinn. We are supposed to read ruqya with the intention of ONLY seeking the help from Allah and not the jinn because seeking help is a type of worship which is ONLY for Allah (“You alone we worship and You alone we ask for help” Quran 1:5). Even if the jinn catching raqis say that they are seeking help from Allah and the jinn at the same time with their ruqya reading……IT IS STILL SHIRK since you are associating partners with Allah! You can’t worship jinn and Allah at the same time!
Another form of shirk that jinn catching raqis fall into is the fact that they are actually calling on the jinn while they are actually reading ruqya. Yes, they call on Allah but they also call on the jinn at the same time and that is because of their ruqya intention of ‘wanting to cause jinn possession so that the jinn’s help can be used’ and this is an intention that makes your ruqya action an action of shirk. If you read ruqya with this intention then your action of ruqya (or your calling) is major shirk!
Ruqya is a dua or a CALL to Allah and you can’t use it to call for help from the jinn because calling is only for Allah (Quran 72:18). It may not seem like they are calling on jinn because the Quran is being used but in reality that is what the ruqya action is being used for. In an authentic ruqya session that is according to the sunnah, even though the words ‘O Allah help and cure us’ are not literally always said during a ruqya session with the Quran but that is what is really happening in reality ie there is definitely a call or dua ONLY to Allah through the recitation of the Quran as ruqya. Likewise, when a jinn catching raqi reads ruqya with the Quran, he is basically calling on Allah and the jinn at the same time because he has the intention, in his heart, of seeking the help of the jinn through Quranic ruqya means, by default, that he is calling on the jinn through his recitation of Quran as ruqya even though literally, he may not actually say the words ‘O Allah and O jinn help and cure us’. He is calling on the jinn and that’s why he eagerly waits and anticipates a response or reply from the jinn in the catcher and it is irrelevant and it does not matter if the jinn were forced to possess the catcher or not because the real focus to know the status of this ruqya and whether or not it contains shirk, is to look and to investigate the intention of the raqi. THAT’S IT. We don’t look or investigate the status or reality of the jinn in this matter.
Once you have the intention in your heart to seek the help of the jinn through the call or dua of ruqya then automatically you are calling on the jinn because that is what dua or calling is all about ie if your intention of ruqya in your heart contains shirk then definitely your action of ruqya reading will also be shirk!Because of this, we can say that there is no real difference between the jinn catching raqi and the man running out in the desert, seeking and wanting the help of the jinn and then saying certain words to summon the jinn so that the jinn in the desert appear and present themselves to the man and then the jinn fufill the needs of the man. Looking at this example of the man in the desert, we will all agree that the jinn catching raqi has definitely got the first stage of this shirk within his heart which is the desire and want to use the help of the jinn. He also has the last part, which is actually using the help of the jinn in reality. If that is the case, then by default and by necessity, he has the middle stage, which is calling on or getting the jinn to present themselves. He has the intention to use the help of the jinn and then reads ruqya with this intention to get this help from the jinn so therefore the ruqya gets turned into a call to the jinn. If your original intention for ruqya contains shirk then your subsequent ruqya action becomes shirk! That is because actions are based on intentions!
This calling of the jinn could be done by using any words or phrases, such as ‘Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha’. All that matters is that you have the want and the desire to call on the jinn and then you actually call on the jinn with ‘Ha, ha, ha.’ IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT!
It really does not matter if the jinn recognize or they don’t recognize that they are being called on by the jinn catching raqi. It also does not matter if they were unwilling or forced to possess the catcher. All of this and also the jinn’s state of mind does not affect the shirk in the ruqya action of the jinn catching raqi because this shirk does not depend on the reality and state of the jinn but it ONLY really depends on the the reality and status of the jinn catching raqi’s heart ie if the raqi’s intention in his heart has shirk then his ruqya will be shirk irrespective of the jinn’s status. We must remember that people call on idols and do shirk with them. The actual status, reality, shape, colour etc of the idol is irrelevant and does not affect the reality of the shirk that has been done by the human. Therefore, it is irrelevant if the jinn know or don’t know what is actually happening during jinn catching ruqya.
The ruqya of the jinn catching raqis has become a means of causing jinn possession in the catcher so that the jinn’s help can be used. This action of ruqya has become shirk by just the mere intention of wanting the jinn’s help.
Sadly, the Quran can be used to do this calling of the jinn. In general, we believe the jinn don’t mind being forced to possess the catcher and they recognise that the jinn catching raqi’s Quranic reading of ruqya is not really just calling on Allah but it is also calling on them as well, to present themselves in the catcher so that they can fulfil the jinn catching raqis requests and needs. The jinn will always take up an opportunity to make Muslims fall into shirk, especially the devils.
We should mention here that the jinn catching raqi’s call or dua via the Quran to Allah for help is actually rejected by Allah because Allah doesn’t accept being called on at the same time as jinn, angels or idols. SO THE CLAIM TO BE CALLING ALLAH, IS ONLY A CLAIM. In reality, jinn catching raqis are ONLY calling on the jinn because Allah rejects any dua or ruqya that is to him and to the jinn at the same time. Our hearts cannot and must not have the desire and want for Allah’s help combined with the want and desire for the jinn’s help….indeed in the heart is where ALL the shirk of dua begins!
Due to this shirk state of the jinn catching raqi’s heart and the fact that he is calling on Allah and the jinn at the same time via the Quran as ruqya, the jinn catching raqi’s Quranic reading as ruqya or calling on Allah through the Quran is rejected by Allah and is not answered or accepted. How many unfortunate people read Quran or do good deeds but it is rejected by Allah because it was done with the intention of showing off, so we shouldn’t get surprised at the fact that someone’s Quran reading can be rejected by Allah. In fact, one of the first people to be thrown into hell will be a reciter of the Quran who read the Quran for other than Allah in the well known hadith. Therefore, the jinn catching raqi’s Quran reading as ruqya is really ONLY calling on the jinn and not Allah because Allah doesn’t accept being called on at the same time as jinn or anything else (Quran 72: 18).
After reading this false ruqya, the jinn present themselves in the catcher and then the jinn catching raqi uses the help and services of the jinn through the catcher. This action or use of the jinn’s help is also shirk (Quran 6:128) & (Quran 72:6).
Therefore, from the above, we can say that there are 3 forms of major shirk that the jinn catching raqis fall into:
1. Shirk of the heart ie wanting and desiring the help of Allah and the jinn in the heart and then reading ruqya with the intention of seeking the help of the jinn and Allah at the same time. (Remember, it is irrelevant that Allah is mentioned here as Allah doesn’t accept his help being wanted at the same time as jinn’s help being wanted because that is shirk).
2. Shirk of dua ie calling on the jinn and Allah at the same time. (Again here, it is irrelevant that Allah is mentioned because Allah doesn’t accept being called at the same time as jinn being called because that is shirk).
3. Shirk of seeking help ie once the jinn present themselves and start speaking in the catcher, the jinn catching raqis use their help and services.
Having said all of that, there are some that still can’t understand that jinn catching is SHIRK. They claim that what I have mentioned above does not apply to them because their intention for ruqya is different. They claim that they read jinn catching ruqya with just the intention of “asking Allah to bring the jinn into the catcher”. WE SAY THAT IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO DO MORE THAN JUST CAUSE JINN POSSESSION……YOU WANT THE JINN’S HELP! Therefore, their real intention is much more than just that. Their real intention is: “Asking Allah to cause jinn possession in the catcher SO THAT YOU CAN USE THE HELP & SERVICES OF THE JINN”. We can say that because jinn catching is NOT just one stage of asking Allah to cause possession in the catcher. There is the final stage of actually using the services and help of the jinn. This final stage is the main objective and goal of the whole of the jinn catching ruqya and to get to that stage there has to be a want or desire for jinn’s help in the beginning of the process and in the heart of the raqi.
The problems with this real intention is:
1. It is rejected because you want and desire the help of the jinn even if the actual help is done at the final stage of jinn catching. This want and desire for the jinn’s help in the heart of the raqi is a major shirk of the heart as mentioned earlier. It is a PRESENT feeling in the heart and it doesn’t matter that this feeling has to do with the final stage of the jinn catching process. This present and current wanting and desiring in the heart of the raqi is where all the shirk stems from.
2. Reading ruqya with this intention is also major shirk as explained earlier. We know from usool ul fiqh that whatever leads to haram is haram itself. So this reading of ruqya is SHIRK and it is haram because it leads to major shirk.
1. It is rejected because you want and desire the help of the jinn even if the actual help is done at the final stage of jinn catching. This want and desire for the jinn’s help in the heart of the raqi is a major shirk of the heart as mentioned earlier. It is a PRESENT feeling in the heart and it doesn’t matter that this feeling has to do with the final stage of the jinn catching process. This present and current wanting and desiring in the heart of the raqi is where all the shirk stems from.
2. Reading ruqya with this intention is also major shirk as explained earlier. We know from usool ul fiqh that whatever leads to haram is haram itself. So this reading of ruqya is SHIRK and it is haram because it leads to major shirk.
3. When the jinn present themselves in the catcher, their services and help are used.
(We can also add to these 3 points the fact that they are asking Allah to cause jinn possession in a Muslim or non Muslim. Asking Allah to harm an innocent person is haram itself even if they ask for it. How can a sane Muslim ask Allah to harm is brother or sister with jinn possession. We will discuss this again, later in the article)
As can be seen clearly, there is NO difference between what I mentioned earlier. Jinn Catching is full of Major Shirk!
Those jinn catchers who say that we can’t know what is really in their heart, need to understand that we are only basing this opinion on what we have seen and read about jinn catching ruqya. So this information is coming from the jinn catchers themselves. We have seen jinn catchers using the services and help of the jinn in the catcher and have seen them being very happy with the help and services of the jinn and definitely this happiness with the jinn’s help is an action of the heart that they are not embarrassed about expressing in words. Now, to get this jinn’s help they describe what must be done and how to do it and what the final outcome will be and how to use the jinn. So they clearly manifest, what is in their hearts, through their speech and writing and that the whole point of jinn catching is to get the help of the jinn. Obviously, the jinn catchers are not going to call what we saw them do ‘getting the help from the jinn’.They will call it by another name like ‘jinn catching’ or ‘doing dawah to the jinn’. But the Islamic verdict is based on the reality of things and processes and not just names so when we break down what jinn catching really is, we find that it has the 3 types of major shirk that we mentioned earlier and it also has other things that make it haram as mentioned in the rest of this article.
If there are still jinn catchers who believe that I have misunderstood what jinn catching is all about after my above explanations. Then we ask them a simple question:
DO YOU SEEK THE HELP AND SERVICES OF THE JINN DURING THE ACTION OR PROCESS OF JINN CATCHING? (ie interact, communicate and benefit from the jinn like a fortune teller or those people who work with jinn. Please see the definition of ‘seeking help from the jinn’ at the beginning of this article)
If the answer is “YES”, then that is major shirk! If the answer is “NO”, then you yourself haven’t understood what jinn catching is all about!
It is very important to know and understand that jinn catching involves SHIRK because the scholars have agreed that ruqya that involves shirk is NOT allowed because of the hadith of Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “There is nothing wrong with a ruqyah that does not involve shirk (paganism).” [Muslim]. In jinn catching, the treatment can only be completed or done properly or done partially with the assistance of jinns. The raqis can’t do it without the help of jinn or calling on jinn or speaking and interacting with jinn ie they are dependant on jinn, hence the name jinn catching. This assistance, reliance and calling on the jinn to treat people is where the problem lies and is severely condemned in the fatawa below so please click the links and read them carefully.
When seeking a cure or treatment through ruqya, we must just stick to what the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam did and we know that he NEVER used the jinn as a way of treating illnesses in people even though the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam had the opportunity to use their services and assistance. Those who say that jinn catching is just a new type of treatment similar to taking new medicines or brain surgery, then we say to them that using the jinn’s help is not like modern methods of treatment because we have been commanded to avoid interaction with jinn and calling on them for help and assistance because that is shirk (Quran 6:128 & 72:6 & 72:18. Please refer to the fatawa below for an explanation of these Quranic ayahs).
The Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam would call the jinn to Islam but this calling or dawah had nothing to do with treatment of Muslims who are sick with sihr or jinn possession. Treatment is one separate thing and dawah is another separate thing and the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam NEVER did dawah to the jinn in order to use the jinn’s services and their help to cure people.
The Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam would call the jinn to Islam but this calling or dawah had nothing to do with treatment of Muslims who are sick with sihr or jinn possession. Treatment is one separate thing and dawah is another separate thing and the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam NEVER did dawah to the jinn in order to use the jinn’s services and their help to cure people.
While doing ruqya on a patient and suddenly and by accident the jinn start speaking in a patient and there was no intention to use the help of the jinn from the raqi while he was actually reading the ruqya then the raqi in such a situation can briefly warn and give dawah to the jinn. If the possessing jinn decide to embrace Islam after we have warned and given them dawah, we will still NOT use their services to help or cure our patients. We will not even ask them for help to diagnose the patient. We will just tell the the possessing jinn to leave the body of the patient ! Unfortunately, this is not the case with jinn catching, which uses the services of the possessing jinn. The jinn catching raqis will ask the possessing jinn to do particular things and to carry out certain missions so as to ‘treat’ the patient, such as removing sihr from the patient’s stomach. They will also use the jinn’s help in diagnosis and that is asking the jinn to help them to know what is exactly wrong with the patient or his family. ALL OF THIS IS SHIRK so please read the fatawa below.
2. It actually and directly causes jinn possession in the ‘catcher’. The Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam NEVERcaused or made someone become possessed with jinn. On the contrary, the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam removed jinn from people and never put jinn in people. The hadith of the dua of Sulaiman alayhi salam cannot be used as evidence for jinn catching since that the jinnee the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam caught hold of while in pray was an external jinnee and the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam did not put that jinnee into someone.
3. Using the Quran for other than its purpose of curing illnesses: Instead of using the Quran as a cure, it is used to cause harm or an illness in a person. It is used during jinn catching to cause jinn possession in a person or to bring about jinn possession in a person, in this case the catcher. The Quran was sent down to heal and it is a cure (Quran 17:82) and it was NOT sent down to harm anyone or to be used to cause jinn possession, which is definitely, without doubt, a type of spiritual illness (Quran 2:275). Therefore, jinn catching promotes the devaluing or disrespecting of the Quran.
4. Making ruqya dua via the Quran or otherwise to harm a muslim with jinn possession: Harming muslims is totally haram and is a MAJOR SIN and causing jinn possession is one the worse things you can do to a muslim because it affects their body, mind, soul and deen. Jinn possession can cause a muslim to commit evil deeds as possessing jinn can influence a person’s heart.
It does not matter if there is a good intention for jinn catching as the action is invalid and haram and the intention does not make the action of causing possession a good deed. It is like causing someone to have sihr to get married or stealing money to feed the poor. Even if the intention is good in both cases, the actions are still haram. Therefore causing a person to be possessed, especially a muslim, is a serious violation of the rights of your muslim brothers and sisters even if the raqis believe that they aren’t doing evil and even if the ‘catcher’ requests jinn possession because in reality jinn possession has always been something harmful and it has never been praised in the Quran and sunnah. In fact, it is frowned upon in other religions as well. The only people who I have seen that are happy with jinn possession are the sahirs and shayateen so those who are happy with the jinn possession of the catcher need to ponder on that fact!
It does not matter if there is a good intention for jinn catching as the action is invalid and haram and the intention does not make the action of causing possession a good deed. It is like causing someone to have sihr to get married or stealing money to feed the poor. Even if the intention is good in both cases, the actions are still haram. Therefore causing a person to be possessed, especially a muslim, is a serious violation of the rights of your muslim brothers and sisters even if the raqis believe that they aren’t doing evil and even if the ‘catcher’ requests jinn possession because in reality jinn possession has always been something harmful and it has never been praised in the Quran and sunnah. In fact, it is frowned upon in other religions as well. The only people who I have seen that are happy with jinn possession are the sahirs and shayateen so those who are happy with the jinn possession of the catcher need to ponder on that fact!
5. Ruqya is only used for treatment and diagnosis and is NOT for other purposes like making or causing the jinn to speak. In jinn catching, ruqya is used as a means of causing jinn possession so that the raqi can speak to the jinn. We do not need to speak to jinn during ruqya!!! If jinn manifestation occurs during ruqya treatment then the raqi can briefly speak and give dawah to the jinn but this manifestation of the jinn must be a TOTAL ACCIDENT and was not the purpose and intention for the ruqya in the first place and that is essentially one of the differences between correct authentic ruqya and jinn catching ruqya.
Sometimes, in jinn catching ruqya, you will just see the raqi and catcher enter a house, building or somewhere outside like a hill, field or outside a nightclub or casino and then the jinn catching raqi does ruqya, NOT TO TREAT OR DIAGNOSE PATIENTS, but the ruqya is just done to make the catcher possessed so that the jinn catching raqi can speak and ask the jinn questions in order to get information about what they do in this particular place or if they have any information about recents events in the area or if the jinn have any information about missing people, planes or unsolved crimes. This is totally unacceptable and a BIDAH that you won’t find the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam did or the sahaba. RUQYA IS AN ACT OF WORSHIP and therefore it has rules and regulations that we cannot add to and this action of the jinn catching raqi is a deliberate use of ruqya to specifically speak, communicate and interact with jinn and ruqya is NOT for these purposes and it is only supposed to be used to treat and diagnose people. This reprehensible action is exactly the same as what some fortune tellers do when they ask their jinn to explain why certain events or crimes have happened in the world. (Certain fortune tellers don’t just tell you about the future, they will also tell you about the present unseen world). This action of the jinn catchers is also similar to what some non Muslims do during a ‘seance’, when they wish to speak to ‘dead spirits’ (in reality, not dead spirits but jinn) through a medium and so they gather in a house and have a dinner party and a psychic with a medium start searching and speaking to jinn. So jinn catching raqis and their catchers are basically following the ways of these people, where the jinn catching raqi is exactly the same as the psychic and the catcher is exactly same as the medium, and what an evil and unislamic tradition to follow and replicate! BOTH GROUPS’ METHODS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME but one set of people call it ‘jinn catching’ while the others call it ‘speaking to the dead spirits’. This similarity in actions also applies to the fortune tellers and jinn catchers so when you look at what the fortune tellers do and compare that to the work of jinn catchers, you will find that they both get information about the unseen from the jinn and then they relate this information to people. The jinn catchers will deny that they are doing anything wrong and that they are not like fortune tellers but when we examine both, we find that they are doing exactly the same thing and therefore we must warn against jinn catching ruqya just like we warn against fortune tellers and those who do seances or those who work with jinn.
We must remember that names will always change but the Islamic verdict is based on the reality of methods and things not just names. The shaytan will always confuse people with name changing as he did with Adam alayhi salam by calling the tree by other than its real name and there will be people in the future who the shaytan will confuse and make them drink alcohol, do zina and listen to music by changing the names of these haram actions (Bukhaari). So what the jinn catching raqis have fallen into is an old strategy of the shaytan that he used against our father Adam alayhi salam SO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE REALITY OF THINGS AND NOT JUST NAMES even if the name sounds islamic like ‘jinn catching’.
Jinn manifestation in patients during ruqya, where the jinn speak in patients has to always be an ACCIDENT and something that was NOT EXPECTED or intended since you cannot have the intention to want to CAUSE THE JINN TO SPEAK through your ruqya reading prior to actually doing the ruqya reading itself because that intention alone will render the action of ruqya null and void and will make it a bidah as it is using the ruqya for other than its real islamic purpose. Remember, Allah didn’t legislate ruqya so that it could be used as way to make and cause the jinn to speak.
If you know that the patient is possessed because of their reactions during ruqya then you may STOP the ruqya and give the jinn a verbal warning or call them to Islam briefly as Ibn Taymiyah advised (Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 19/42). When this dawah or warning is done, we don’t have to necessarily hear the jinn reply to our speech and this is the IDEAL SITUATION. If the jinn do speak in the patient, which is an unfortunate situation to be in, then you may still give the warning or call them to Islam but this warning or dawah MUST be brief and to the point and you must avoid any long discussions because it may lead you to shirk. Remember, shayateen among the jinn know what sins are and what the different levels of sins are and they are experts in the field of making people do sins. They know the greatest sin is shirk and they know that if they can confuse a raqi and make him fall into shirk with regards to ruqya then they would have truly done a great evil since this raqi may end up teaching people this ruqya that has shirk in it. So always be aware of this and don’t fall for their traps. One of the common things the possessing shayateen will say to raqis is that they can help you with other patients and attack other jinn for you. If you accept this and actually start doing this then you would have committed shirk as has been explained in the fatawa above. So please don’t be happy when jinn start manifesting and speaking in patients. In fact, you should be very sad when jinn speak in patients because speaking to jinn can lead you outside the fold of Islam!
6. Reading ruqya on someone who doesn’t need ruqya, in this case the catcher: The catcher is someone who does not need ruqya. Ruqya should only be done on people who are ill (treatment) or people who think they may be ill (diagnosis). It is never done on people who are well and healthy. So if we ask the catcher, “Why is he having ruqya?” He will say that he is having ruqya done, not because he is ill (treatment) or not because he thinks that he is ill (diagnosis) but he will say that he is well and healthy and he does not personally need any ruqya treatment or diagnosis for himself. In fact, the jinn catching raqi will also say that the catcher doesn’t need ruqya treatment or diagnosis and therefore, this is probably the ONLY situation I have ever come across where the one receiving the ruqya (the catcher) and the raqi himself, think and believe that the one receiving the ruqya (the catcher) is totally fine and doesn’t need ruqya diagnosis or treatment. If that is the case then the catcher is not really getting any Islamic ruqya at all and he has made himself the main target and focus of an Unislamic practice that cannot be called ruqya.
Indeed, this act of doing ruqya on a fit and healthy person (catcher) who doesn’t want or need it is a bidah in of itself because you will NEVER find in the sunnah that ruqya was done on fit and healthy people, who don’t need it. There must be some sort of illness or problem that a person complains about or a experienced person notices something in someone or a person may think they have spiritual ailment and then ruqya diagnosis or treatment will be applied to this person. Ruqya is not done on healthy people, who don’t need it or who don’t exhibit any problems and if it is done then it is not really Islamic ruqya but something else that cannot be called ruqya, rather it is a bidah. HOW CAN WE CALL THIS RUQYA WHEN THE ONE RECEIVING THE RUQYA IS NOT A REAL AND GENUINE PATIENT!
We cannot even use ruqya as a preventative measure on a healthy and fit person because that would be a bidah as well. So you can’t read ruqya with the intention: ‘O Allah cure me from any illness that I might get in the future’.
There are 2 problems with this above intention and the subsequent ruqya. Firstly, it is being done on a healthy and fit person. Secondly, the ruqya is being used as a preventative measure and there is no text in the Shariah for that.
If you want protection and prevention for spiritual or physical ailments then you should do the morning and evening adhkar and also read the Quls after salah and do the adhkar before sleep.
7. In some cases, the jinn catching raqis don’t visit the actual patients in their homes but instead ‘treat’ them with jinn catching from a distance with or without the patient’s knowledge or permission. This is known as doing jinn catching remotely. To do this ‘remote ruqya’, the jinn catching raqi may use a photograph of the patient and may even use the patient’s name. This is a bidah! THE PATIENT MUST NOT BE ABSENT AND MUST BE IN FRONT OF THE RAQI OR IN THE SAME ROOM OR AREA AND THE PATIENT MUST HEAR THE RUQYA.
In all the hadiths about ruqya, we find that the raqi and patient are together in the same room or area and there is no large distance between them so for example the sahabi who read fatiha on the mushrik, when Jibril alayhi salam read ruqya on the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam and when A’ishah read ruqya on the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam: IN ALL OF THESE EXAMPLES, THE PATIENT AND RAQI ARE TOGETHER IN THE SAME ROOM OR AREA.
8. I believe that jinn catching can eventually lead to the jinn catching raqi becoming a sahir because it has similar acts like those that are done by a sahir in sihr, namely:
A) Wanting and desiring the help and services of the jinn in the heart is what a sahir does (See 1 above).
B) Calling on the jinn is what a sahir does (See 1 above).
C) Using the help and services of the jinn is what a sahir does (See 1 above).
D) Causing jinn possession or putting jinn in people is what a sahir does (See 2 above).
E) Disrespecting the Quran and using it for other than its real purpose is what a sahir does (See 3 above).
F) Causing the jinn to manifest so that they can be spoken to is another action a sahir does (See 5 above)
G) Using a photograph of the person is what a sahir may do when he wants to do sihr on someone. (See 7 above)
H) Targeting or ‘treating’ a person who is absent or who is not in the same room is what a sahir usually does when he wants to do sihr on a victim. (See 7 above)
I) Using the names of people is what a sahir does when he wants to do sihr on a victim. (See 7 above)
J) Targeting or treating a person without their knowledge or permission is what a sahir usually does to his victims. (See 7 above)
Considering all these 10 above actions, it is better to keep far away from jinn catching because of its similarity to sihr.
I would not be surprised if some jinn catching raqis have already become or are now more inclined to do sihr because of their practise of jinn catching.
I would not be surprised if some jinn catching raqis have already become or are now more inclined to do sihr because of their practise of jinn catching.
9. Doing indirect ruqya diagnosis and treatment of the patient: In jinn catching, the raqi does not directly read ruqya on the patient but reads on the catcher. Indirect ruqya is a bidah.
You cannot read ruqya on someone in order to diagnose or treat another person. In jinn catching, the patient is ignored and ruqya is applied to the catcher who subsequently gets possessed by jinn. The possessing jinn in the catcher get asked about the condition of the patient. So the information doesn’t come from directly reading on the patient but it comes indirectly from the reading on catcher and his jinn. After this initial indirect ruqya diagnosis the catcher and his jinn are read on again to treat the patient indirectly. This is indirect ruqya diagnosis and treatment which is a bidah. The Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam never did this nor did the sahaba. All the ruqya that is described in the sunnah is direct ruqya on the patient and not on a third party. Some of the examples of direct ruqya from the sunnah are when the sahabi read fatiha on the mushrik, when Jibril alayhi salam read ruqya on the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam and when A’ishah read ruqya on the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam. You will not find a third person ruqya set up in the sunnah.
You cannot read ruqya on someone in order to diagnose or treat another person. In jinn catching, the patient is ignored and ruqya is applied to the catcher who subsequently gets possessed by jinn. The possessing jinn in the catcher get asked about the condition of the patient. So the information doesn’t come from directly reading on the patient but it comes indirectly from the reading on catcher and his jinn. After this initial indirect ruqya diagnosis the catcher and his jinn are read on again to treat the patient indirectly. This is indirect ruqya diagnosis and treatment which is a bidah. The Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam never did this nor did the sahaba. All the ruqya that is described in the sunnah is direct ruqya on the patient and not on a third party. Some of the examples of direct ruqya from the sunnah are when the sahabi read fatiha on the mushrik, when Jibril alayhi salam read ruqya on the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam and when A’ishah read ruqya on the Nabi salulahu alayhi wasalam. You will not find a third person ruqya set up in the sunnah.
In jinn catching you are NOT using direct ruqya in diagnosing or treating the patient but instead reading ruqya on the catcher so the catcher is the main focus and not the patient. The patient does not get any benefit from the ruqya itself and they just sit there watching the raqi perform ruqya on the catcher.
No ruqya diagnosis or ruqya treatment is directly applied to the actual patient. So if no ruqya diagnosis or treatment is being directly performed on the person who REALLY needs it, ie the patient, then we must ask the question: “What is exactly being done here in reality?” In short, and to be frank, NO DIRECT ISLAMIC RUQYA IS BEING DONE AT ALL! Therefore, it cannot be called ruqya. It is something new and an invented matter; a bidah!
No ruqya diagnosis or ruqya treatment is directly applied to the actual patient. So if no ruqya diagnosis or treatment is being directly performed on the person who REALLY needs it, ie the patient, then we must ask the question: “What is exactly being done here in reality?” In short, and to be frank, NO DIRECT ISLAMIC RUQYA IS BEING DONE AT ALL! Therefore, it cannot be called ruqya. It is something new and an invented matter; a bidah!
10. I was asked about doing self ruqya before sleeping, using ayah 148 of surah baqrah in order to summon and then catch the jinn in a dream so that the jinn can be attacked by the patient in the patient’s dream.
Again this a bidah because it is using the ruqya for other that its legislated purpose. Ruqya is NOT for summoning jinn or catching jinn or calling on jinn so that you can speak to them. RUQYA IS ONLY FOR DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT.
The issue here is with the intentions of wanting to summon and then catch jinn in dreams and then followed by the subsequent ruqya action of reading ayah 148 with these 2 incorrect intentions. This ruqya is not according to the sunnah
I have seen a video describing this process and I have also heard of a patient doing this. They both describe that you will receive a sword in your dream that you will be able to use to attack the jinn.
Now, even if you receive a sword and attack the jinn, this is not an evidence that this ruqya method is correct. We don’t base things on dreams to prove if something is halal or haram as this will open the door to shaytan.
I personally believe that since the whole ruqya is a bidah in the first place, that the dreams these patients have is from the shaytan so as to confuse and misguide people into believing that the ruqya they did was good and effective. The shaytan and the possessing jinn in dreams can pretend and make it seem that they have been attacked by patients as this will make the patients continue doing this bidah. In fact, patients might start believing that they are cured and no longer need ruqya because they ‘killed’ the jinn in their dreams.
11. Being happy or delighted or at the very least being content that you have caused jinn possession in a muslim or any human which is terrible thing to do. How can someone rejoice at oppressing their muslim brother or sister. Clearly jinn possession is an illness as described by Allah in the Quran (2: 275) and being happy at seeing this happening to a muslim is an evil deed or action of the heart in of itself. Obviously, jinn catching raqi thinks that they have done something good but in reality they have done an awful action and they will continue to do this because they believe they are doing a good deed.
This bidah of jinn catching is not only harming the iman of the raqi but it is also physically oppressing the catcher. So the jinn catching raqi gets two sins. One sin for doing the action of jinn catching and another sin of harming the catcher.
CONCLUSION
Dear Raqis and patients, If you ask Allah sincerely and ponder and reflect on what I have mentioned then you will surely see that jinn catching is not something that should be practised or encouraged.
To those patients who want to visit a jinn catching raqi then I warn you not to do so as you will be visiting those who have similar methods to fortune tellers or those people who work with jinn. Please read the second fatwa above from ‘islamqa’ which quotes the 2 hadiths about visiting fortune tellers and the negative effects of just visiting them or believing in what they say.
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND that patients do self ruqya rather than depending on any raqi or catcher or jinn for their treatment because the scholars are agreed that self ruqya is the best form of ruqya. The fact that jinn catching ruqya doesn’t promote self ruqya and that it needs the use of a raqi, catcher and speaking jinn, clearly demonstrates that it makes a patient rely and be dependent on one of those 3 for treatment and therefore the patient can’t get away from using them or is forced to use one of them to get “cured”. Any ruqya method that doesn’t make use of self ruqya or encourage patients to be independent should be abandoned and not used.
I advise my fellow raqis to practice this special hijama treatment to extract active and moving jinn in patients that I explain here:
http://www.practicalselfruqya.com/2016/10/16/jinn-extraction-technique/
http://www.practicalselfruqya.com/2016/10/16/jinn-extraction-technique/
You should use this other hijama technique below to extract disabled and non moving jinn from patients and is what I did to remove a disabled jinnee from my own body:
http://www.practicalselfruqya.com/2016/10/16/how-allah-cured-me/
http://www.practicalselfruqya.com/2016/10/16/how-allah-cured-me/
Finally, I would like to say two important things to my fellow raqis and brothers and that is they should learn how to do specific ruqya diagnosis as this will stop them from relying on and speaking to jinn. You can learn more about specific ruqya from this video of mine:
And the important rules for specific ruqya can be read here:
http://www.practicalselfruqya.com/2016/10/16/7-rules-for-specific-ruqya-2/
http://www.practicalselfruqya.com/2016/10/16/7-rules-for-specific-ruqya-2/
The last point I would like to say to my fellow raqis is that the phenomenon of jinn speaking in patients has hardly anything to do with your recitation of Quran as ruqya but it is more to do with the sins of the patient. Please read this research I wrote on how sins affect possessed muslims and why jinn speak in them:
http://www.practicalselfruqya.com/2016/10/16/how-sins-affect-possessed-muslims/
http://www.practicalselfruqya.com/2016/10/16/how-sins-affect-possessed-muslims/
(CAN’T WE SEE THAT SPEAKING POSSESSING JINN IN MUSLIMS IS A DEGRADING AND HUMILIATING PHENOMENON! NON OF OUR PIOUS IMAMS, SCHOLARS OR BELIEVERS OF THE PAST, ESPECIALLY THE SALAF EVER HAD SPEAKING POSSESSING JINN. IN FACT, YOU WON’T FIND ANY OF THE PIOUS IMAMS, SCHOLARS OR BELIEVERS OF TODAY IN SUCH A PREDICAMENT AND THAT’S BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE SAFE GUARD OUR DEEN AND ALLAH WOULD NEVER ALLOW THEM TO BE HUMILIATED NOR ALLOW US TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE QUESTION OF “IF THE JINN SPOKE OR THE SHEIKH SPOKE” WHEN WE ASK FOR A FATWA. CAN YOU SEE THE CORRUPTION THAT SPEAKING JINN COULD DO VIA A SCHOLAR, HENCE ALLAH DOESN’T ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN, EVEN THOUGH SOME SHEIKHS DO GET TESTED WITH JINN POSSESSION. SO IF YOU ARE A ‘CATCHER’ IT IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE HAPPY OR PROUD ABOUT AS THERE ARE NO GOOD EXAMPLES IN OUR PAST OR PRESENT)
I PRAY TO ALLAH THAT HE MAKES MY FELLOW RAQIS AND BROTHERS SEE THE PROBLEMS WITH JINN CATCHING CLEARLY AND CAUSE THEM TO ABANDON PRACTISING IT…..AMEEN!……….and with Allah is the success and cure.
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